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Terry ([personal profile] tmcg) wrote2006-06-07 02:56 pm
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[identity profile] thenetwork.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
This is depressing me.

[identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com 2006-06-08 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I have an unexamined, instinctive belief that it's a psychotic spell and the wheel will turn so that sanity's at the top again and the main thing is to keep the psychotic from doing harm during the episode. Doesn't make it a whole lot less depressing, though.

[identity profile] thenetwork.livejournal.com 2006-06-08 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
You have this gut-level faith in the innate goodness and sanity of humankind, which I'm sure is a nice thing to have. I don't have any, though. *sigh* Besides, how does one keep psychotic dictators from doing harm? This is like a bad Hollywood film version of "For Us, the Living". Boo, hiss.

[identity profile] ogre-san.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Could have been better, true, but when I consider that the wingnuts couldn't even get a simple majority in a Republican Senate, I don't feel so bad.

[identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com 2006-06-08 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
There is that!

Wingnuts. Yeah.

[identity profile] cordwainer.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think of it as close. They needed 60 votes to invoke cloture and stop debate, and they needed 67 votes to pass it. Then the House would also need to pass it by 2/3rds, and then the states would have to ratify it. It would take forever. The whole thing is just a joke put out by the junta to distract people from the real issues.

I suppose at some point there will be uniformity to the law on this issue, but as it is now with DOMA in place, states like Vermont, Massachusetts, California and others having civil unions, or domestic partnership, vs. states like Wyoming where they kill gay people (Matthew Sheppard), we're a long way from any national unity.

So, civilized states, or large metropolitan areas could just leave the union and let the ignorant red states wither on the vine.

[identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com 2006-06-09 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
If I tilt my head one way I see it as not that close a call, and if I tilt my head the other way I'm appalled by how many yea votes there were. But, then, more than a handful is going to seem like too many to me (with the understanding that none is unrealistic). As has been pointed out, it's a diversion and a waste of time, but that's not enough to make me dismiss it with a hand wave. Now that it didn't pass, it can be an irritation.

I hear ya, about letting the vines wither; tempting. And polarization seems to me to be increasing a lot, although possibly I'm just becoming more aware of it.

[identity profile] tharain.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
No porblem.

And now the House is going to debate and vote on a useless waste of time, and not pay attention to the crappy things that are going on in the country.

Love this government.

[identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com 2006-06-09 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
Who was it in your journal who said something like "Pay no attention that war behind the curtain"? *g*

It's an insane waste of time. As long as nobody actually succeeds in amending the Constitution or anything like that. *sigh*

[identity profile] norilana.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
This is indeed scary....

[identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com 2006-06-09 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
And so many other, better things they could be doing.

[identity profile] merlinpole.livejournal.com 2006-06-08 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Note that not one New England senator voted in favor of it, that all the New England Republicans voted against it, even Sununu....

[identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com 2006-06-09 06:21 am (UTC)(link)
I did notice a couple of nays there, but I didn't realize it was all. Way to go.