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Terry ([personal profile] tmcg) wrote2006-06-07 02:56 pm
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[identity profile] cordwainer.livejournal.com 2006-06-07 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think of it as close. They needed 60 votes to invoke cloture and stop debate, and they needed 67 votes to pass it. Then the House would also need to pass it by 2/3rds, and then the states would have to ratify it. It would take forever. The whole thing is just a joke put out by the junta to distract people from the real issues.

I suppose at some point there will be uniformity to the law on this issue, but as it is now with DOMA in place, states like Vermont, Massachusetts, California and others having civil unions, or domestic partnership, vs. states like Wyoming where they kill gay people (Matthew Sheppard), we're a long way from any national unity.

So, civilized states, or large metropolitan areas could just leave the union and let the ignorant red states wither on the vine.

[identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com 2006-06-09 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
If I tilt my head one way I see it as not that close a call, and if I tilt my head the other way I'm appalled by how many yea votes there were. But, then, more than a handful is going to seem like too many to me (with the understanding that none is unrealistic). As has been pointed out, it's a diversion and a waste of time, but that's not enough to make me dismiss it with a hand wave. Now that it didn't pass, it can be an irritation.

I hear ya, about letting the vines wither; tempting. And polarization seems to me to be increasing a lot, although possibly I'm just becoming more aware of it.