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Probably everyone here has seen the story about the semicolon tripping up the folks who wanted to stop the same-sex weddings in San Francisco, but since it weds two of my favorite topics (punctuation and domestic partnership) so beautifully, I have to blog it.

Thanks, DireRed.

Date: 2004-02-19 09:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] wrdnrd
That story made me smile in so many ways.

And the 1st thing that popped into my head was a comment my husband heard someone make recently: "The semi-colon is God's own punctuation!!" Upon reading that news story, i thought, "Wow, this must be a sign from God." ;)

Date: 2004-02-20 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akaspeedo.livejournal.com
I hadn't seen this, how cool. Is that semicolon placement grammatically correct, or just legalese?

Date: 2004-02-20 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com
Heh!

It was certainly intervention of some kind, if not divine then typographical....

Date: 2004-02-20 10:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com
It's not so much that it isn't grammatically correct but that, because it's mispunctuated and has a word missing, it doesn't make sense and it doesn't say what they meant it to say. The main problem is the missing word.

The Proposition 22 Legal Defense and Education Fund had asked the judge to issue an order commanding the city to "cease and desist issuing marriage licenses to and/or solemnizing marriages of same-sex couples; to show cause before this court."

It's not entirely fair to criticize a partial excerpt of the sentence (and from only one, online source), but it seems that what they wanted to say was "...cease and desist, or show cause [for not ceasing and desisting] before this court." It should be a comma, not a semicolon; but if the word "or" had been in there, they probably could have gotten away with the semicolon.

So it's really "the 'or' story," not "the semicolon story." :)

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Date: 2004-02-20 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com
Or even better, put the "or" where the semicolon is. That's what the judge said. So maybe it is "the semicolon story." I'm sleep-deprived and high on antihistamines. Ignore me. :)

Date: 2004-02-20 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akaspeedo.livejournal.com
Aha, that makes sense to me now. Thanks.

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Date: 2004-02-20 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akaspeedo.livejournal.com
Sick? Boo.

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Date: 2004-02-22 08:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com
Yeah, I became vulnerable to either con crud or an Amtrak rhinovirus by running myself into the ground, and proceeded to get almost no sleep for a week, which meant there was no getting well. Feeling a bit better today, after a good night's sleep. :)

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Date: 2004-02-22 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akaspeedo.livejournal.com
Ew. I'm glad you're feeling better, though :)

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Date: 2004-02-22 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com
Thanks! Email coming your way in a moment.

Date: 2004-03-02 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
That semicolon incident is indeed an awesome example of universal justice!

;-)

Vi

Date: 2004-03-04 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] terrymcgarry.livejournal.com
I think we should write a retroactive episode of Classic Trek entitled "The Semicolon Incident." The potential in the notion of sentient punctuation is vast....

Good to see you, Vi! :) :)